I recently sat down with Elizabeth Abel, Corporate Vice President at CCS Fundraising, to hear her perspective on philanthropic giving over the course of the pandemic. In addition to her work at CCS, Elizabeth is also an instructor in the Masters of Nonprofit Leadership at Penn’s School of Social Policy and Practice. Throughout our conversation, Elizabeth shared some of the high-level charitable giving trends that have emerged over the last 15 months, and provided predictions on how nonprofits may continue to evolve in the coming months and years. What follows is a record of our conversation, edited for length and clarity.